This is a TVD Wishful Thinking Post
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semeleIt seems like lately I've been spending most of my TVD discussing time speculating about things I want to happen. So I figured I need a separate Wishful Thinking Post, because right now I mix up my wishes with my observations, and sometimes it turnes out that I'm talking gibberish ;).
The things I want to see on TVD in the future:
1. There is no switch. Well, there is, but it only works for young vampires. Rose's explanation was perfect for me, but, somehow, the show isn't sticking to it. And I think that vampires would be much more interesting if each and every one of them simply discovered at some point that he/she suddenly feels again. Of course for some of them it wouldn't change a thing (people don't have a comfortable switch on their emotions, and yet some of us do unspeakable things), but for some it woud just make such a wonderful mess!
2. Compulsion is not a perfect tool. I'm not really interested in a fact that it can be fought, but I do think it should turn out that it doesn't work that well when it comes to things that are a part of normal human experience. So Jeremy still is sad because of Vicky, and Elena has some shadow of a memory of Damon telling her he loves her, and Stefan still loves Elena. I'm not talking about some huge revelations, just about those things from the back of your head and the corner of your eye; I don't want compulsion to go completely wrong, I just want it to go not as perfectly well as it usually does.
3. Dark!Stefan gets darker. I want him to do something horrible to Elena (right now he's just being creepy), or to use the knowledge he has about Damon to hurt him somehow. I want there to be no excuse to him. And I want him to do all those horrible things and still love Elena, because being a monster doesn't make you incapable of love, and, logically, the ability to love doesn't make you a good person. Monsters can love, and it doesn't make them any less of a moster.
4. I really want Elena to face what's worst about her. I want her to do something horrible (no, sleeping with Damon doesn't count; I actually believe that if she ever sleeps with him, she'll do it after the mentioned Something Horrible, not before). I want her to feel that she has no high moral ground over Stefan or Damon (ok, she obviously has, but it's not about the actual degrees of evil, but about the degrees of evil that work in her brain). I want her to be manipulative. I want her to start losing her faith in people.
5. I want Tyler to get out of this siring-hybrid nonsense. Seriously, in this show vampires get to choose whether or not they want to turn. This show should be entirely about making choices and handling the consequences. Tyler should have a free will-driven storyline, just like Stefan should.
6. Dear writers, while you're bringing all the ghosts back, could you please bring Jenna as well?
7. I want Damon to dress up like a housemaid, and run around the house with a feather duster, and... I'd better shut up.
There probably are more wishes, but I'm so sleepy right now I can't remember them. Well, they'll probably come up in a discussion anyway.
And how about your TVD wishes? Please, don't feel obliged to be realistic; we're totally talking about the world of fancy and no idea shall be scolded with a "This Is Not Gonna Happen" frown ;). So what do you want to see on TVD in the future?
The things I want to see on TVD in the future:
1. There is no switch. Well, there is, but it only works for young vampires. Rose's explanation was perfect for me, but, somehow, the show isn't sticking to it. And I think that vampires would be much more interesting if each and every one of them simply discovered at some point that he/she suddenly feels again. Of course for some of them it wouldn't change a thing (people don't have a comfortable switch on their emotions, and yet some of us do unspeakable things), but for some it woud just make such a wonderful mess!
2. Compulsion is not a perfect tool. I'm not really interested in a fact that it can be fought, but I do think it should turn out that it doesn't work that well when it comes to things that are a part of normal human experience. So Jeremy still is sad because of Vicky, and Elena has some shadow of a memory of Damon telling her he loves her, and Stefan still loves Elena. I'm not talking about some huge revelations, just about those things from the back of your head and the corner of your eye; I don't want compulsion to go completely wrong, I just want it to go not as perfectly well as it usually does.
3. Dark!Stefan gets darker. I want him to do something horrible to Elena (right now he's just being creepy), or to use the knowledge he has about Damon to hurt him somehow. I want there to be no excuse to him. And I want him to do all those horrible things and still love Elena, because being a monster doesn't make you incapable of love, and, logically, the ability to love doesn't make you a good person. Monsters can love, and it doesn't make them any less of a moster.
4. I really want Elena to face what's worst about her. I want her to do something horrible (no, sleeping with Damon doesn't count; I actually believe that if she ever sleeps with him, she'll do it after the mentioned Something Horrible, not before). I want her to feel that she has no high moral ground over Stefan or Damon (ok, she obviously has, but it's not about the actual degrees of evil, but about the degrees of evil that work in her brain). I want her to be manipulative. I want her to start losing her faith in people.
5. I want Tyler to get out of this siring-hybrid nonsense. Seriously, in this show vampires get to choose whether or not they want to turn. This show should be entirely about making choices and handling the consequences. Tyler should have a free will-driven storyline, just like Stefan should.
6. Dear writers, while you're bringing all the ghosts back, could you please bring Jenna as well?
There probably are more wishes, but I'm so sleepy right now I can't remember them. Well, they'll probably come up in a discussion anyway.
And how about your TVD wishes? Please, don't feel obliged to be realistic; we're totally talking about the world of fancy and no idea shall be scolded with a "This Is Not Gonna Happen" frown ;). So what do you want to see on TVD in the future?
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Date: 2011-10-24 03:09 am (UTC)ESPECIALLY #7.LOVE your Elena thoughts. That's exactly what I want, too.no subject
Date: 2011-10-24 05:50 am (UTC)You liked #7? *GASP* I'M SHOCKEDOK BACK WITH MORE THOUGHTS
Date: 2011-10-24 12:40 pm (UTC)2. Yes again. And this is where I think there might be hope. I can see the reading that the compulsion part is a metaphorical outgrowth of Stefan's control issues (i.e. ceding control to others).
3. WORDWORDWORD. I feel like the show has been SO ON IT with the fact that ABUSERS ABUSE re: Damon. Like you said--Damon's abusive patterns of behaviour have zilch to do with the actual people he has relationships with. They're products of issues WITHIN HIMSELF. Which means that there is fucking nobody who is safe. When it comes to Damon, the show GETS this. And then... you have shit like 3.05, where Stefan is able to resist compulsion because of his love for Elena, and I'm just like BUT WHY. It's, like, COMPLETELY going back on the subversion of tropes they've established with Damon. (Ugh, I need to not talk about this to preserve my sanity.)
4. OMG SO MUCH YEESSSSSSSSS. ITA that Elena shouldn't jump Damon until she feels like she has NOTHING TO LOSE. That would make the most sense. Right now she's still very much--I hate to say it--in her schoolgirl mode of romance and sex, where she feels dirtybadwrong for wanting Damon while a) not wanting to commit to him, and b) being in love with his brother. If Stefan and Damon operate as symbols for the light and dark in Elena (which... they do), the narrative dictates that screwing Damon is necessary for Elena to confront her fears about adulthood and her own sexuality, etc. etc. TROLOLOL ELENA MUST FUCK DAMON FOR ~CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT REASONS.
5. I seriously have no thoughts about Tyler's storyline. I just don't care. This is not a good omen.
6. THIS.
7. So say we all. The visual alone makes my life worth living.
MY WISHES:
+ KLAUS/STEFAN SEX
+ KATHERINE/STEFAN SEX
+ REBEKAH/STEFAN SEX
+ REBEKAH/DAMON SEX (they are all living in the same house, what)
- NO GHOST SEX TROLOLOL
/correct priorities
Re: OK BACK WITH MORE THOUGHTS
Date: 2011-10-24 01:29 pm (UTC)Hmmm, I have this weird impression that there is a pattern in your wishes. I don't know why!
They're vampires, they should just have an orgyI think I still have hopes for the show to do the right thing with Stefan, because they were kind of brutal about Damon in s2? He had to acknowledge that there is no switch, he got to do all those wrong things for love, there are no excuses for him (well, except for those made by Elena and Stefan, but it's clear that they just have a soft spot)... Of course there were some fuck-ups when it came to Damon, but generally no sugar-coating ensued.
And then... you have shit like 3.05, where Stefan is able to resist compulsion because of his love for Elena, and I'm just like BUT WHY. It's, like, COMPLETELY going back on the subversion of tropes they've established with Damon.
I'm right there with you. I shall speak of it no more, unless I learn to swear in English just as well as I can do it in my mother tongue. I am very good at swearing in my mother tongue. Creative and all.
If Stefan and Damon operate as symbols for the light and dark in Elena (which... they do), the narrative dictates that screwing Damon is necessary for Elena to confront her fears about adulthood and her own sexuality, etc. etc. TROLOLOL ELENA MUST FUCK DAMON FOR ~CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT REASONS.
But of course it's all about CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT! What, you thought I wanted it to happen because I want to see, like, THE HOTTEST THING THIS SHOW HAS EVER DONE? What kind of person do you think I am? *GASP*
God, it will be even hotter than the "My sweet, innocent Damon" scene...Yes to all your Elena thoughts. I never consciously thought about it in terms of Elena's sexual morality, but I have to agree. And, for now, I'm kind of ok with the fact that she is like this? That's how I was when I was 18, and getting to know that it's not necessarily always like that was quite a painful process ;).
The more we talk about them, the more I want to sit down and write a Big Damn Damon/Elena Meta That Includes Every Detail Of Their Relationship. I think that will be my plan for the next hiatus (shouldn't there be one in November? American Thanksgiving and stuff?)
Re: OK BACK WITH MORE THOUGHTS
Date: 2011-10-24 11:59 pm (UTC)Amen.
I think I still have hopes for the show to do the right thing with Stefan, because they were kind of brutal about Damon in s2?
I am hoping that maybe they'll bring Stefan crashing down to Earth like they did with Damon in late S2. But unlike with Damon's arc, I'm not counting on it.
I am very good at swearing in my mother tongue. Creative and all.
;)
God, it will be even hotter than the "My sweet, innocent Damon" scene...
BLASPHEMY. OK but well if that ~training scene was any indication, it'll probably be pretty damn hot. Nina and Ian, man. They CANNOT TURN IT OFF.
And, for now, I'm kind of ok with the fact that she is like this? That's how I was when I was 18, and getting to know that it's not necessarily always like that was quite a painful process ;).
Oh, I'm okay with it too. It's very realistic. :)
The more we talk about them, the more I want to sit down and write a Big Damn Damon/Elena Meta That Includes Every Detail Of Their Relationship.
DO IT DO IT DO IT DO IT DO IT. I shall ~assist you.
Re: OK BACK WITH MORE THOUGHTS
Date: 2011-10-25 04:19 am (UTC)Oh, come on, it's hardly blasphemy when it's still Nina and Ian ;). Besides, when it finally happens, we can have a serious and totally scietific discussion about which scene was hotter. With picspams and stuff. How do you feel about that?
Now I'm thinking about it and I thought we should also include the Damon/Katherine scene with the blue corset, which is, ok, not so hot, but extremly beautiful. Now I'm conflicted :(.
I shall ~assist you.
By all means, do! I'm open to every suggestion!
Re: OK BACK WITH MORE THOUGHTS
Date: 2011-10-25 09:34 am (UTC)Heh yeah, I think that blue corset scene (in the S1 flashback, right?) is more ~beautiful than hot. Let's just keep it to the 2.01 aborted-sex scene.
Um. What do you need? xD I have an assorted bunch of D/E meta around the place if you want to check your ideas against mine?
Re: OK BACK WITH MORE THOUGHTS
Date: 2011-10-25 11:37 am (UTC)I don't even know what I need yet (well, I do: I need to survive the ficathon before I start doing anything else, so it means that I get my life back on Friday ;)). But I'm definitely gonna read your TVD metas I haven't read yet, thanks for the tip :D.
Or it will turn out that you've written everything there was to write, so I'll have to build you an altar and never write a word of meta anymore.Re: OK BACK WITH MORE THOUGHTS
Date: 2011-10-25 01:58 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2011-10-24 10:52 am (UTC)Moim największym życzeniem jest zobaczenie na ekranie trójkata Damon/Stefan/Elena. Nie tylko zarysowanie ale pokazanie go nieco odważniej (no seksu może nie wymagam, nawet bez pocałunków się obejdę), ale w wypowiedziach, wątpliwościach, wahaniach, sytuacjach chciałabym go zobaczyć bardziej. Bo wiem, że on jest, ale niestety mocno przykrywany ;(
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