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Vamp!Elena is my unfulfilled fanfic dream
I've had this phase before, and I got over it. But today ![[livejournal.com profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/external/lj-userinfo.gif)
ever_neutral gave me some recs, and I started reading, and I'm sort of obsessed again. I was supposed to make a TVD Christmas Speculation Post, but it can wait, it's still November ;). Vamp!Elena is in my head RIGHT NOW!
Welcome back, obsession. I sort of missed you.
I'm not sure if I want Elena to be a vampire in canon, but I'm deeply in love with vamp!Elena fanfiction. Ok, I generally frown upon fics in which Elena decides to be turned because she wants to be with one of the Salvatores, and it's OMG SO EPIC LOVE, but other than that? Elena turned against her will. Elena choosing to turn, because she doesn't see any other option (like: she can't kill Klaus, but she can do something to ruin his supply of doppelganger blood). Elena dealing with transition. Elena with all her features magnified. Elena with all her issues magnified.
And her relationship with Damon? ENTIRELY NEW LEVEL! She would be furious with him. She would depend on him. He would be thrilled that she's a vampire. He would be terrified that she's a vampire. He wouldn't know how to deal with it. He would have to help her. Elena would hate herself and project it on Damon. Elena would find that her connection with Damon is even deeper. I don't really know how to grasp the subject, but this is, like, the fic of my dreams. I'd love to write it, but I probably never will, because I have no idea how (believe me, I tried...), but I would totally read it, and hey, I can speculate the hell out of the subject.
And how about you? What's your deep, dark fanfic craving? What do you think about fics in which canon humans are turned into vampires? Because I also love the idea of vamp!Alaric, and I wouldn't say no to a good writer doing something about vamp!Wesley. Or perhaps there is someone who is also craving vamp!Elena as badly as I am, and you want to tell me all about it?
ever_neutral gave me some recs, and I started reading, and I'm sort of obsessed again. I was supposed to make a TVD Christmas Speculation Post, but it can wait, it's still November ;). Vamp!Elena is in my head RIGHT NOW! Welcome back, obsession. I sort of missed you.
I'm not sure if I want Elena to be a vampire in canon, but I'm deeply in love with vamp!Elena fanfiction. Ok, I generally frown upon fics in which Elena decides to be turned because she wants to be with one of the Salvatores, and it's OMG SO EPIC LOVE, but other than that? Elena turned against her will. Elena choosing to turn, because she doesn't see any other option (like: she can't kill Klaus, but she can do something to ruin his supply of doppelganger blood). Elena dealing with transition. Elena with all her features magnified. Elena with all her issues magnified.
And her relationship with Damon? ENTIRELY NEW LEVEL! She would be furious with him. She would depend on him. He would be thrilled that she's a vampire. He would be terrified that she's a vampire. He wouldn't know how to deal with it. He would have to help her. Elena would hate herself and project it on Damon. Elena would find that her connection with Damon is even deeper. I don't really know how to grasp the subject, but this is, like, the fic of my dreams. I'd love to write it, but I probably never will, because I have no idea how (believe me, I tried...), but I would totally read it, and hey, I can speculate the hell out of the subject.
And how about you? What's your deep, dark fanfic craving? What do you think about fics in which canon humans are turned into vampires? Because I also love the idea of vamp!Alaric, and I wouldn't say no to a good writer doing something about vamp!Wesley. Or perhaps there is someone who is also craving vamp!Elena as badly as I am, and you want to tell me all about it?
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I can't believe Damon is that secure in his sexuality.
Neither can I, mostly because Damon + 100% secure = DOES NOT COMPUTE. As you said, it's a performance and it only goes skin-deep. It's based on an assumption that in the heteronormative world, sexual provocation form a man makes people back off. He never tries this trick with Katherine (he does provoke her sexually, but only to lure her out and give himself an opening to reject her again; he doesn't try to intimidate her, because he knows it wouldn't work), and if a woman he's provoking actually started playing along, he would be completely lost.
And then he would beg her to have sex with him, because if a girl can intimidate him like this, he is sure to be head over heels for her.Now I kind of want a fic in which Elena tries to intimidate Damon with her sexualized behavior, and he is caught off-guard. I want him to be shy and in awe. Damon, my boy, you know you would.
And now I'm thinking of that hilarious moment where Elena and Alaric essentially whore Damon out to Rebekah, not even asking his opinion on the matter. XD
He wouldn't object anyway XD. He has an act to keep up, so he can't refuse to be whored out. It would ruin the entire "Damon is a sexual predator" image.
You're right with Elena being sexually assertive with Stefan, but waiting for Damon to make a move. It makes sense, I guess: Stefan is her boyfriend and she loves him, but she doesn't feel comfortable enough to even tell Caroline that she is attracted to Damon. She is ok with the fact that she has sexual needs, but being attracted to Damon still feels wrong. I guess we talked about it already? It's ok for Elena to be assertive with Stefan, but not with Damon, because she feels it's not ok for her to just want to fuck him senseless, no cozy feelings attached?
It's fascinating to me that this is the primary way by which he defines himself--by how desirable he is to others.
Well, Stefan might be about a struggle for self control, but Damon is all about power play. Which might be one of the reasons I like him so much.
And I'm glad that you mentioned that he uses it against men too, because HE TOTALLY DOES, lol.
He also tries it with Alaric, only it doesn't work at all XD. Hey, now that I think about it, Alaric must feel pretty secure in his own body. He just gracefully ignores Damon's innuendos.
Not just for the hot, but for the character development~ lmao.
OF COURSE IT'S FOR CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT!!!
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and if a woman he's provoking actually started playing along, he would be completely lost. And then he would beg her to have sex with him, because if a girl can intimidate him like this, he is sure to be head over heels for her.
TRUTH.
Now I kind of want a fic in which Elena tries to intimidate Damon with her sexualized behavior, and he is caught off-guard. I want him to be shy and in awe. Damon, my boy, you know you would.
I giggled uncontrollably at this sentence. Not even gonna front.
It's ok for Elena to be assertive with Stefan, but not with Damon, because she feels it's not ok for her to just want to fuck him senseless, no cozy feelings attached?
Yes, indeed. Though it might work the other way around too. Elena does strike me as a romantic-romantic. I think that the stronger her feelings (in general) for Damon grow, the more physically attracted she is to him. Nina plays it that way too. Compare their early S1 scenes to their veritable smorgasbord of UST moments this season. I think Elena is so hesitant to admit an attraction because even a purely physical attraction might open the floodgates to a tidal wave of ~other feelings.
Well, Stefan might be about a struggle for self control, but Damon is all about power play. Which might be one of the reasons I like him so much.
Huh. Elaborate?
Hey, now that I think about it, Alaric must feel pretty secure in his own body. He just gracefully ignores Damon's innuendos.
BAHAHA. And this is what leads to scenes like in 3x02 when he opens the door to "Damon" while shirtless and unzipped. :D
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Now I'm intimidated :P.
Good point about Elena, sex and feelings! It makes sense, especially since, well, she wasn't attracted to Damon in early s1, and now he didn't get any sexier, physically (the 3x01 shirt being a glorious exception, DAMON, SON, YOU SHOULD HAVE AN ENTIRE WARDROBE OF THOSE SHIRTS AND NEVER TAKE THEM OFF!!!). Oh God, she is literally falling in love with his glorious personality. Oh God.
Stefan is constantly struggling with himself: it's all about HIS bloodlust, HIS self-control, HIS ability to keep it together. Damon, on the other hand, is constantly relating to others. He keeps challenging people, he gets into power plays (like, he tries how far he can go before someone kicks his ass), he provokes. He is submissive, but he never lets it happen without a fight. He enjoys it when people have power over him, but at the same time he doesn't give this power just to anybody. He picks the strongest, either physically or emotionally, and it looks like he also enjoys testing their strenght. It's not like with Spike, who simply liked competition; it's more complicated. Like with Elena: he tries to make her believe she has no power over him, she's not buying it and she keeps pushing, and that's what gets him all intrigued!
Look at the scene from 3x05. Elena just makes a face and asks him why he left her, and he instanty offers a promise that he'll never do that again. He doesn't do it because he's so whipped. He does it because Elena has earned this level of submission by constanty demanding it for months, and not taking "no" for an answer. People need to earn their power over Damon, and he likes giving it away gradually.
Am I making any sense? Because I kind of feel that I'm babbling...
And this is what leads to scenes like in 3x02 when he opens the door to "Damon" while shirtless and unzipped. :D
I'm a Damon/Alaric shipper, ok? And the INHUMAN sound I made when I saw this scene... Well, you could probably hear it in Australia.
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the 3x01 shirt being a glorious exception, DAMON, SON, YOU SHOULD HAVE AN ENTIRE WARDROBE OF THOSE SHIRTS AND NEVER TAKE THEM OFF!!!
LOL! I laughed at that shirt, honestly. I mean. IT'S HOT. But it's so... purple. LOL. I'm always ??? whenever Damon wears bright colours. Though, that is an interesting topic of debate: HOW SEXY ON A SCALE OF [X] IS DAMON PER SEASON?? ::strokes chin::
Oh God, she is literally falling in love with his glorious personality. Oh God.
LORD SAVE US.
YESSSSS, you make all of the sense re: Damon and power plays. You are so so right about him not giving his power/trust away until it's ~earned. He's looking for his match. He needs to be challenged. (In that sense, I totally relate with him; I would NEVER be able to have a relationship with a yes-person. Damon is easily bored, and so am I.) I think it's more than that though. I think Damon has this need to push and push the people around him to test their loyalty. Why is it real with Stefan and Elena and Alaric? Because he's done EVERYTHING IN HIS POWER to push them away, via a series of incredibly self-destructive/destructive choices, and they're still here anyway. IT'S REAL. He wants it to be real.
Haha, I ship Alaric and Damon too, and was thus \o/ \o/ \o/ at that 3x02 scene. (Though, admittedly I don't ship them as hard as I do other Damon ships.)
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Though, that is an interesting topic of debate: HOW SEXY ON A SCALE OF [X] IS DAMON PER SEASON??
You should totally make a serious post with pictures, and then we can debate!
Yeah, I've had a relationship with a yes-person once, I'm definitely NOT doing it ever again, so when I was writing that comment, I was all: "Hmm, is it still Damon, or am I projecting?" ;).
Point with testing loyalty! But, at the same time, he kind of expects them to accept everything and love him anyway (look how surprised he is when it turnes out that yes, Alaric DOES mind being killed on a whim). He's so convinced they'll all get over everything eventually, and I can't quite grasp when did that happen.
Damon/Alaric is one of my more important ships, but right now I'm so deeply into "OMG D/E" haze it's hard to get my mind onto Damon/Katherine, let alone ships that have completely nothing to do with Elena...
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Damon and his relative levels of sexiness should ABSOLUTELY be a post of its own. Season 1 Damon is clearly a thing of beauty, but I think for the most part it should be judged on an episode by episode basis. Like, there were some really unfortunate hair episodes in season 2, but also some ridiculously sexy Damon episodes. I NEED GIFS PLEASE.
Yeah, so far my contribution to the discussion has not exactly been academic...#priorities, they are straight
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GIFS, YOU SAY? YOU ASK, I DELIVER; WE'RE EASY LIKE THAT.
S2!Damon
S3!Damon
(^eye-porn)
SO? WHAT IS THE VERDICT? HM?
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The verdict is that ALL DAMONS ARE EXCELLENT DAMONS.
Seriously, I can't stop staring at the eye-porn. MAKE ME STOP.Re: GIFS, YOU SAY? YOU ASK, I DELIVER; WE'RE EASY LIKE THAT.
The verdict is that ALL DAMONS ARE EXCELLENT DAMONS.
lol. Why is this sentence so amusing to me.
I WILL NEVER STOP YOU. YOU MUST SUFFER THIS EXQUISITE TORTURE TOO.
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Such a better use of his time than resting. #blasphemy #worthit
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